Meeting Summary - 08/30/24 WMWG Meeting

  1. – Antitrust Admonition – Blake Holt

    – 2025 AS Methodology – Luis Hinojosa

    • Started discussions in July to get feedback and shared proposed methodology in August.
    • Updated data for inertia and IFRO change for Responsive Reserve; minor quantity changes.
    • Responsive Reserve: Updated inertia for 2023 and 2024, IFRO changed to 1365.
    • Regulation: Proposes to switch from net load forecast ramping and accounting for historical regulation deployment to net load forecast error.
    • Regulation: No changes to FRS or integralACE components, LFL analysis ongoing.
    • ECRS: Recommend taking the maximum of capacity needed between net load forecast error and frequency recovery.
    • ECRS: Bumped frequency recovery to 70th percentile, changes due to increased solar capacity.
    • Non-Spin: Maintain 6-hour ahead forecast, but move to 4-hour ahead for nighttime hours.
    • Reviewed data from 2020-2024 to justify comfortable capacity levels in nighttime hours.
    • Slight increase in Non-Spin quantities with proposed methodology adjustments.
    • Plan to discuss further in ROS, WMS, and TAC meetings.

    – State of Charge Monitoring – Luis Hinojosa

    • Production data from July is now included in the report.
    • The report, which monitors ancillary services carried by ESRs and their state of charge (SOC), is now available and will be posted monthly on the WMS page.
    • Failure to provide based on SOC is calculated by EMS, including failure to perform analyses for FME and non-FME events.
    • Slides discussed failures due to low SOC and actions taken with PDCWG.
    • Clarification provided on how evaluated ESRs are determined and their performance metrics.
    • Confirmed the need for contacting underperforming ESRs.
    • Definition provided for ‘failure’ in the context of primary frequency response (PFR) – failure to meet at least 0.75% of the expected response for an event.
    • Discussion on the relationship between SCED dispatches and low SOC impacting PFR.
    • Consensus on making the report a regular agenda item for questions.
    • Suggestion to consider the aggregate SOC of batteries in ancillary service procurement due to the increasing penetration of batteries.
    • Mention of a standard revision in progress to better evaluate batteries, indicating potential changes in how batteries are assessed.

    – Pricing Impacts of LDL Override Decisions made during 4/8 Eclipse – Cory Carswel

    • Request made at WMS for details on price impacts of low dispatch limit (LDL) override instructions during April eclipse.
    • ERCOT team still working on the analysis.
    • Other priorities have delayed the analysis.
    • Discussion on this topic deferred to September.

    – NPRR1230 Methodology for Setting Transmission Shadow Price Caps for an IROL in SCED – Monitoring – Blake Holt

    • The ERCOT board approved NPRR1230 at their August meeting.
    • Approval by the PUC is expected by late September, with an effective date of October 1.
    • The new methodology involves dynamic shadow price calculations at TAC.
    • There was a recommendation for regular monitoring of the new methodology’s effectiveness, and ERCOT supports this.
    • Discussion needed on whether the monitoring should be done by WMWG or CMWG.
    • ERCOT’s previous analysis included violation relief in megawatt-hours and the market solution’s dollar impact.
    • Suggestion made that CMWG handle the analysis due to its focus on congestion management.
    • No objections raised; will suggest to WMS that analysis should be referred to CMWG.
    • Ryan King from ERCOT supported the suggestion and mentioned they have no updates to share due to other priorities.
    • Next steps include planning to provide more information on the potential impacts of the NPRR.

    – NPRR1235 Dispatchable Reliability Reserve Service – Next Steps – Ryan King

    • Ryan King emphasized the need to codify discussions from stakeholder workshops regarding the DRRS.
    • ERCOT proposed a two-phase approach to NPRR1235, with Phase One focusing on areas with high confidence and Phase Two discussing concerns such as energy storage integration.
    • There is a commitment from ERCOT to start discussions on Phase Two within the year.
    • Clarification was made that ERCOT cannot make firm guarantees about implementation timelines due to dependencies on completed NPRR designs and IA assessments.
    • Bill Barnes supported the phase approach and stressed the importance of including ESR capacity in the RUC engine to meet statutory requirements.
    • Michael Jewell was concerned about the eligibility of ESRs to participate in DRRS and felt this should align with legislative intent.
    • Discussion on how DRRS resources would be applied in market settings and the need for clear guidelines on inclusion in the RUC engine was raised.
    • Stakeholders expressed interest in deploying four-hour batteries and ensuring market signals support longer duration batteries.
    • Specific points of NPRR1235 were highlighted, such as the ancillary service demand curve and scaling factors to ensure DRRS appears cheaper in the RUC engine.
    • Questions and clarifications were made regarding self-deployment for DRRS.
    • There was no final consensus from stakeholders on moving NPRR1235 forward, with some supporting moving ahead with the current NPRR and others wanting ESRs included in the first phase.

    – NPRR1229 RTM CMP Energy Payment – Policy Questions – Ino Gonzalez

    • ERCOT received comments from staff and questions they posted.
    • ERCOT ready to help staff and market participants with NPRR.
    • Current NPRR as written cannot be implemented.
    • Significant policy decisions need to be made.
    • STEC provided comments and a draft of the NPRR with changes.
    • Policy question about paying for repair costs as well as capital expenditures.
    • STEC made it clear the intent was to pay for repairs, working to clarify that in the NPRR.
    • Policy question on paying lost opportunity payments during the outage period and its duration.
    • Clarification needed on paying lost opportunity vs. bilateral contracts.
    • STEC clarified that if paying for bilateral contracts, you will not pay for lost opportunity and vice versa.
    • Policy questions on paying for lost opportunity need to be addressed by stakeholders.
    • Example scenario: generator cannot go offline due to high repair costs.
    • Discussion on communication and advance notice for CMP between ERCOT and STEC.
    • Lucas and Freddie provide insights on forming CMP agreements and the necessity for operating instructions for significant operational risks.
    • Concerns about the non-optional nature of operating instructions and potential guardrails.
    • Suggestion to discuss policy issues at the next TAC meeting, considering if these policy decisions should be brought to the PUC.
    • Acknowledgment of the significant impact of repair costs on the market.
    • Need for high-level visibility for significant policy impacts.
    • Ongoing work to clarify points in NPRR without implying ERCOT’s agreement with its concepts.

    – NPRR1238 Voluntary Registration of Loads with Curtailable Load Capabilities – ORDC Implications – Katie Rich

    • Katie Rich introduced the topic and the context of the NPRR, referring to the need to discuss implications on market prices and deployment triggers.
    • The NPRR addresses price formation partially through the inclusion of VECL deployments and the termination of the RDPA.
    • Bob Wittmeyer raised concerns about early curtailments resulting in no response during trigger pulls by ERCOT and questioned the necessity of additional adders.
    • Katie and others discussed the potential impact on ORDC and the possibility of incorporating it into the NPRR.
    • Blake Holt from LCRA and others clarified their understanding of ORDC capacity calculations and the inclusion of offline capacities.
    • Additional discussions on ORDC methodology, settlement calculations, and the need for telemetry to track curtailed loads.
    • Steve Reedy recapped that Katie suggested a method to calculate deployed MWs of VECL, and subtracting that from the RTOL cap calculation, potentially increasing ORDC adder prices.
    • Katie Rich agreed to draft language for next month’s meeting to provide clarity and allow for internal consideration.
    • ERCOT (specifically Austin from settlements) mentioned the potential need for impact analysis once the language is drafted.

    – NPRR1241 FFSS Availability and Hourly Standby Fee – Initial Discussion – Katie Rich

    • Discussion about further refinement of clawback and withholding amounts based on recent firm fuel deployments.
    • Stair-step approach proposed for FSR clawback criteria:
      • Minimum, maximum clawback for unavailability greater than 75% of hours
      • Reduction decreases to 10% if unavailable for 10% or less of the hours
    • Comparison with current ERCOT criteria: increase from 90 days.
    • Concern about whether changes would improve service quality, referencing the July 30 settlement report.
    • Comments on proportionality and thresholds for clawback days.
    • Discussion on the relationship between proposed changes and paragraphs 10-14 related to failures due to fuel or non-fuel issues.
    • Clarification provided on which paragraphs apply to different situations (watch vs. deployment).
    • Agreement on the need for further discussion and refinement of percentages/values.
    • Katie Rich volunteers to summarize the discussion for WMS and continue collaboration on improving NPRR1241.

    10 – Other Business – Blake Holt

    • Pushing the CARD discussion from last WMS to next month’s meeting.
    • IMM is conducting an analysis relevant to the discussion.
    • Members are encouraged to post materials early or reach out to Ryan King at ERCOT with suggestions.

    11 – Adjourn – Blake Holt

NPRR1241 – NPRR1230 – NPRR1235 – NPRR1229 – NPRR1238

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